I don't believe his theory on immigration because I just can't bring myself to be that cynical, but there is far more evidence for it than, say, the evidence that police officers are racist which fueled huge destruction and delegitimized our criminal justice system at the cost of the most vulnerable citizens.
I don't believe his theory on immigration because I just can't bring myself to be that cynical, but there is far more evidence for it than, say, the evidence that police officers are racist which fueled huge destruction and delegitimized our criminal justice system at the cost of the most vulnerable citizens.
Is it crazier than Joe Biden saying Mitt Romney wanted to "put people in chains"?
Is it crazier than the 1619 project?
Biden had an open border, a welfare state, and was pushing for illegals to vote. Is it true? I don't know. Is there enough evidence to bring it up on a podcast? Definitely.
I certainly agree Biden's "put y'all back in chains" remark was ridiculous, and I know the 1619 Project has been criticized by lots of historians, and I also think the anti-cop rhetoric of 2020/2021 had a huge negative cost.
I also put those in a different category from the specific conspiracy theory Musk was pushing. He claimed that there had been big increases in the illegal immigrant populations specifically in swing states, tweeting a chart of some alleged data from the Department of Homeland Security's own website showing the swing states ranked at the top. And on Rogan's podcast, he said something like "you don't have to take my word for it, you can go find it on the DHS website". Well, I spent a couple of hours trying to replicate the figures he was spreading on Twitter, and they ain't there. Hilariously, the graphic he tweeted actually dramatically underestimated the size of the overall illegal immigrant population. But his big claim that he repeated over and over about swing states having large increases in their illegal immigrant populations, either in absolute terms or relative to other states, was verifiably false.
That type BS angers me more than others, because it's not rhetoric, it's not hyperbole, it's not a misguided opinion... it's a claim of fact stated authoritatively by a person who knows how influential he is and apparently just doesn't give a shit if what he says is true. The "don't take my word for it, go look it up" part is the most infuriating, because he knows barely anyone's gonna do that, and he can't have done it himself cos it's not there. What is there is a direct repudiation of his claim.
Besides that, there's the absurdity in claiming Biden (or whoever) is going to give illegal immigrants the right to vote in a presidential election. Permanent resident aliens can't even vote! How are they gonna do this, exactly, given that it's illegal? Pass federal legislation that would amount to political suicide? Even without the very specific lies, the whole thing is preposterous. As idiotic as Biden's "put y'all back in chains" line was, no one took it literally.
I found his appearance on Rogan to be pretty bad and clearly politically motivate more so than anything he had done in the past. He had a huge dog in the fight getting the dems out because they've been all over him, and I actually believe based on what's come to light from how Biden's admins were going after crypto and tech firms to "play ball" that this was just the start of their desired control over tech. I don't know as much about that issue as you and I'm sure you've done your research, but I still don't think it's any more hyperbolic than what we see from endless influential actors in the political landscape claiming fascism, white supremacy, etc. I suppose we can disagree there. Either way, I still can't get on board with overly demonizing Elon when you look at the body of his work and his intentions.
I don't believe his theory on immigration because I just can't bring myself to be that cynical, but there is far more evidence for it than, say, the evidence that police officers are racist which fueled huge destruction and delegitimized our criminal justice system at the cost of the most vulnerable citizens.
Is it crazier than Joe Biden saying Mitt Romney wanted to "put people in chains"?
Is it crazier than the 1619 project?
Biden had an open border, a welfare state, and was pushing for illegals to vote. Is it true? I don't know. Is there enough evidence to bring it up on a podcast? Definitely.
I certainly agree Biden's "put y'all back in chains" remark was ridiculous, and I know the 1619 Project has been criticized by lots of historians, and I also think the anti-cop rhetoric of 2020/2021 had a huge negative cost.
I also put those in a different category from the specific conspiracy theory Musk was pushing. He claimed that there had been big increases in the illegal immigrant populations specifically in swing states, tweeting a chart of some alleged data from the Department of Homeland Security's own website showing the swing states ranked at the top. And on Rogan's podcast, he said something like "you don't have to take my word for it, you can go find it on the DHS website". Well, I spent a couple of hours trying to replicate the figures he was spreading on Twitter, and they ain't there. Hilariously, the graphic he tweeted actually dramatically underestimated the size of the overall illegal immigrant population. But his big claim that he repeated over and over about swing states having large increases in their illegal immigrant populations, either in absolute terms or relative to other states, was verifiably false.
That type BS angers me more than others, because it's not rhetoric, it's not hyperbole, it's not a misguided opinion... it's a claim of fact stated authoritatively by a person who knows how influential he is and apparently just doesn't give a shit if what he says is true. The "don't take my word for it, go look it up" part is the most infuriating, because he knows barely anyone's gonna do that, and he can't have done it himself cos it's not there. What is there is a direct repudiation of his claim.
Besides that, there's the absurdity in claiming Biden (or whoever) is going to give illegal immigrants the right to vote in a presidential election. Permanent resident aliens can't even vote! How are they gonna do this, exactly, given that it's illegal? Pass federal legislation that would amount to political suicide? Even without the very specific lies, the whole thing is preposterous. As idiotic as Biden's "put y'all back in chains" line was, no one took it literally.
I found his appearance on Rogan to be pretty bad and clearly politically motivate more so than anything he had done in the past. He had a huge dog in the fight getting the dems out because they've been all over him, and I actually believe based on what's come to light from how Biden's admins were going after crypto and tech firms to "play ball" that this was just the start of their desired control over tech. I don't know as much about that issue as you and I'm sure you've done your research, but I still don't think it's any more hyperbolic than what we see from endless influential actors in the political landscape claiming fascism, white supremacy, etc. I suppose we can disagree there. Either way, I still can't get on board with overly demonizing Elon when you look at the body of his work and his intentions.