Zionism is the movement that Jews have the right to self determination. In its origins it did not necessarily mean in the land of Israel (a distinct entity from the modern nation of Israel), but since the 20th century, and certainly since the establishment of the state, it has meant that. Specifically it now means that Israel has the rig…
Zionism is the movement that Jews have the right to self determination. In its origins it did not necessarily mean in the land of Israel (a distinct entity from the modern nation of Israel), but since the 20th century, and certainly since the establishment of the state, it has meant that. Specifically it now means that Israel has the right to exist as a Jewish state. Nothing more, nothing less. Some people in Israel want to own all the land that was the land of Israel (Judea and Shimron), some people in Israel wanted to go back to the borders of 48 or 67 (less now, because a lot of the people killed on the 7th of October were in that camp. Some changed their minds, some are dead).
Equating the belief that Israel should exist, with Hamas is wrong. This is one of the reasons why many many Israelis/Zionists refuse to engage with those who criticise Israel in any sense (even though those same people may have been in the 100s of thousands that marched for months against this current government). There can be no good faith debate with a side that starts with the assumption that Israel should not exist.
Maybe that's not what you mean by "Zionists", but it's what a lot of people mean.
I'd quibble with your definition. Zion is Eretz Yisrael, which is not quite Medinat Yisrael. It is very embedded in Judaism though. Zionism, as established by Herzl has also changed through the years.
Zionism is the movement that Jews have the right to self determination. In its origins it did not necessarily mean in the land of Israel (a distinct entity from the modern nation of Israel), but since the 20th century, and certainly since the establishment of the state, it has meant that. Specifically it now means that Israel has the right to exist as a Jewish state. Nothing more, nothing less. Some people in Israel want to own all the land that was the land of Israel (Judea and Shimron), some people in Israel wanted to go back to the borders of 48 or 67 (less now, because a lot of the people killed on the 7th of October were in that camp. Some changed their minds, some are dead).
Equating the belief that Israel should exist, with Hamas is wrong. This is one of the reasons why many many Israelis/Zionists refuse to engage with those who criticise Israel in any sense (even though those same people may have been in the 100s of thousands that marched for months against this current government). There can be no good faith debate with a side that starts with the assumption that Israel should not exist.
Maybe that's not what you mean by "Zionists", but it's what a lot of people mean.
Zionism literally means ‘Zion’ which is modern day Israel. It is embedded in Judaism.
I'd quibble with your definition. Zion is Eretz Yisrael, which is not quite Medinat Yisrael. It is very embedded in Judaism though. Zionism, as established by Herzl has also changed through the years.